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Message 9221 - Posted 6 Nov 2008 0:46:08 UTC

    It's been announced over at S@H, that ABC will shortly be shutting down. Cannot find any info on front page regarding this.

    Is this true & if so, when?
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    Message 9222 - Posted 6 Nov 2008 1:18:05 UTC - in response to Message 9221.

      It's been announced over at S@H, that ABC will shortly be shutting down. Cannot find any info on front page regarding this.

      Is this true & if so, when?


      Click the Rekem mee met ABC link on this project's front page. Then, if you have the Flashplayer plugin, on the left side of the screen you'll see ABC's progress. Today it's reading just over 74% complete.

      This is ABC's first run. In this run we are searching the number space 1 to 10^18 for ABC triples. It looks like we may be done in early 2009. Who knows, after that they may decide to do a second run and search a larger number space? Or they may decide to end the project. So far there has been no official word.



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      Message 9236 - Posted 8 Nov 2008 10:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 9222.

        It's been announced over at S@H, that ABC will shortly be shutting down. Cannot find any info on front page regarding this.

        Is this true & if so, when?


        Click the Rekem mee met ABC link on this project's front page. Then, if you have the Flashplayer plugin, on the left side of the screen you'll see ABC's progress. Today it's reading just over 74% complete.

        This is ABC's first run. In this run we are searching the number space 1 to 10^18 for ABC triples. It looks like we may be done in early 2009. Who knows, after that they may decide to do a second run and search a larger number space? Or they may decide to end the project. So far there has been no official word.


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        Message 9246 - Posted 9 Nov 2008 14:29:38 UTC

          The project has been running since January 2007, so the 75% took almost two years. There might be an increase in crunching power (some people might decide to crunch ABC@home now, because it's getting closer to an end, and Santa Claus might bring some new computers ;)), but I don't think it will be finished before January or February 2009.
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          Message 9248 - Posted 9 Nov 2008 19:10:15 UTC - in response to Message 9246.

            The project has been running since January 2007, so the 75% took almost two years. There might be an increase in crunching power (some people might decide to crunch ABC@home now, because it's getting closer to an end, and Santa Claus might bring some new computers ;)), but I don't think it will be finished before January or February 2009.


            +2% per week?

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            Message 9251 - Posted 10 Nov 2008 1:13:31 UTC - in response to Message 9248.

              The project has been running since January 2007, so the 75% took almost two years. There might be an increase in crunching power (some people might decide to crunch ABC@home now, because it's getting closer to an end, and Santa Claus might bring some new computers ;)), but I don't think it will be finished before January or February 2009.


              +2% per week?


              I have tried to keep a graph of the progress we have made but I haven't done a good job of it, I don't have many data points. The long straight part is evidence of many months of no data, not a very informative graph. However, the graph does show the rate of progress has accelerated significantly. It looks like the previous 25% required 5 months so +2% may be a little too optomistic. On the other hand, when ABC first went into production I recall Hendrik saying the work units would get shorter as we progress. Maybe finish this run near end of March 2009?

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              Message 9253 - Posted 10 Nov 2008 10:42:40 UTC - in response to Message 9246.

                The project has been running since January 2007, so the 75% took almost two years. There might be an increase in crunching power (some people might decide to crunch ABC@home now, because it's getting closer to an end, and Santa Claus might bring some new computers ;)), but I don't think it will be finished before January or February 2009.


                I can tell you some of us have come over with some of our horsepower because of other Projects having some issues. I for instance came to ABC in August of 2008 bringing most of my dual, or more, cores with me. I am guessing but that is probably more than left during that same time period.
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                Message 9255 - Posted 10 Nov 2008 20:43:48 UTC - in response to Message 9221.

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                  It's been announced over at S@H, that ABC will shortly be shutting down. Cannot find any info on front page regarding this.

                  Is this true & if so, when?

                  ABC is not shutting down. When we reach our inital goal we will increase the boundary to probably 10^21. This might take some time as we need a new application as numbers get larger than 2^64 and there's no C type for integers larger than 64 bit. So we are gonna write a new application which can handle integers > 2^64. Because the numbers are larger than 2^64 the application will be a little slower, but because of algorithmic inprovements, the application will be quite a bit faster in total.

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                  Message 9257 - Posted 11 Nov 2008 1:00:55 UTC - in response to Message 9255.

                    That's good news :)

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                    Message 9259 - Posted 11 Nov 2008 12:03:07 UTC - in response to Message 9255.

                      It's been announced over at S@H, that ABC will shortly be shutting down. Cannot find any info on front page regarding this.

                      Is this true & if so, when?

                      ABC is not shutting down. When we reach our inital goal we will increase the boundary to probably 10^21. This might take some time as we need a new application as numbers get larger than 2^64 and there's no C type for integers larger than 64 bit. So we are gonna write a new application which can handle integers > 2^64. Because the numbers are larger than 2^64 the application will be a little slower, but because of algorithmic inprovements, the application will be quite a bit faster in total.


                      Thank you very much, that is EXCELLENT NEWS!!
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                      Message 9260 - Posted 11 Nov 2008 14:17:34 UTC - in response to Message 9251.

                        It looks like the previous 25% required 5 months so +2% may be a little too optomistic. On the other hand, when ABC first went into production I recall Hendrik saying the work units would get shorter as we progress. Maybe finish this run near end of March 2009?


                        See my initial post from 29th of August: http://abcathome.com/forum_thread.php?id=80&nowrap=true#8952 where I predicted 1st of April 2009.

                        ABC is not shutting down. When we reach our inital goal we will increase the boundary to probably 10^21. This might take some time as we need a new application as numbers get larger than 2^64 and there's no C type for integers larger than 64 bit. So we are gonna write a new application which can handle integers > 2^64. Because the numbers are larger than 2^64 the application will be a little slower, but because of algorithmic inprovements, the application will be quite a bit faster in total.


                        Even when there will be a new target, there will be a break in production, because of programming and testing the new application. Perhaps a revival for the ABC@Home Beta ;)

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                        Message 9265 - Posted 11 Nov 2008 22:10:13 UTC - in response to Message 9255.

                          ABC is not shutting down. When we reach our inital goal we will increase the boundary to probably 10^21. This might take some time as we need a new application as numbers get larger than 2^64 and there's no C type for integers larger than 64 bit. So we are gonna write a new application which can handle integers > 2^64. Because the numbers are larger than 2^64 the application will be a little slower, but because of algorithmic inprovements, the application will be quite a bit faster in total.

                          How long will the pause in the project be and will the current credits be transferred?

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                          Message 9267 - Posted 12 Nov 2008 9:51:04 UTC - in response to Message 9265.

                            How long will the pause in the project be and will the current credits be transferred?

                            We'll try to make this transition as smooth as possible, but there might be a short outage, it's too early to tell now. Since we're running the same project with a different app and larger workunits, the credit will remain intact.

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                            Message 9269 - Posted 12 Nov 2008 18:21:22 UTC - in response to Message 9267.

                              How long will the pause in the project be and will the current credits be transferred?

                              We'll try to make this transition as smooth as possible, but there might be a short outage, it's too early to tell now. Since we're running the same project with a different app and larger workunits, the credit will remain intact.

                              Thanks for the clarification and quick response!

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                              Message 9286 - Posted 17 Nov 2008 21:44:31 UTC

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                                Cleaned up the graph of ABC progress I've been keeping. You can actually read the dates on the x-axis now. Both the x and y axes are extended to allow extrapolation of the completion date. If the current rate of progress holds, this run will be done before 02/2009.

                                The URLs for the data table and gnuplot script used to create the graph are at the bottom of the graph. The first dozen or so point were gleaned from the totale project status thread where there are irregular reports of the progress on the rekenmee site. I'll try to collect the % progress from rekenmee every few days from now on.

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                                Message 9291 - Posted 18 Nov 2008 12:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 9286.

                                  Cleaned up the graph of ABC progress I've been keeping. You can actually read the dates on the x-axis now. Both the x and y axes are extended to allow extrapolation of the completion date. If the current rate of progress holds, this run will be done before 02/2009.

                                  The URLs for the data table and gnuplot script used to create the graph are at the bottom of the graph. The first dozen or so point were gleaned from the totale project status thread where there are irregular reports of the progress on the rekenmee site. I'll try to collect the % progress from rekenmee every few days from now on.


                                  Progress does seem to be accelerating lately.
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                                  Message 9428 - Posted 30 Dec 2008 12:37:29 UTC - in response to Message 9267.

                                    We'll try to make this transition as smooth as possible, but there might be a short outage, it's too early to tell now. Since we're running the same project with a different app and larger workunits, the credit will remain intact.


                                    Hi Robin,

                                    it seems we will reach 100% next month :-) How far are you with the development of new application? Can we expect a smooth transition to new phase or will you need more time for preparation?

                                    Thanks for info & Happy New Year :-)
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                                    Message 9466 - Posted 8 Jan 2009 20:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 9255.

                                      ABC is not shutting down. When we reach our inital goal we will increase the boundary to probably 10^21. This might take some time as we need a new application as numbers get larger than 2^64 and there's no C type for integers larger than 64 bit. So we are gonna write a new application which can handle integers > 2^64. Because the numbers are larger than 2^64 the application will be a little slower, but because of algorithmic inprovements, the application will be quite a bit faster in total.


                                      Would that mean anything for chrunching speed @ 32-bit vs 64-bit computers? 64-bit is twice at fast because those 64-bit integers fit in one register (or something like that, I forgot), but with larger integers would be slower too... So instead of 100% boost 64-bit would increase chrunching speed with 66%, or doesn't it work like that?

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                                      Message 9470 - Posted 9 Jan 2009 9:56:32 UTC

                                        I've started a new thread about the continuation of the project.

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