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Message 9596 - Posted 4 Feb 2009 17:48:58 UTC

    It's a very sad day for the BOINC community. On the one hand we have projects like ABC@home that are developed and run by skilled, community minded people who have a conscience. They make the effort to keep their science app, work units and policies efficient, thereby reducing wasted effort.

    On the other hand we have bad apples like LHC@home that make the whole barrel stink and rot. The LHC@home project knowingly and purposefully tosses 25% of everyone's contribution of CPU time, hardware and electricity into the waste basket. They don't receive any benefit from that 25% waste that they cannot get from a 0 waste policy and practice. The 25% would be acceptable if it could not be avoided but it can be avoided. All the tools and technology exist to eliminate the waste but the project admins refuse to even admit the problem exists. What's even sadder is that they now censor posts in the LHC@home forums that even mention the issue and they promote lies that cover up the waste.

    The 25% waste is a direct result of LHC@home's policy of issuing 5 initial replications for a quorum of 3, the 5/3 policy for short. The 5/3 policy was needed and justifiable years ago when BOINC server and client were both rather primitive. Today, however, new features and functionality in BOINC client and server allow a 3/3 policy (initial replication of 3 for a quorum of 3) that would give LHC@home everything they have now plus other benefits they don't have but need.

    If you have computers attached to LHC@home, detach them and donate your precious CPU time, hardware and electricity instead to a project run by competent people who need your donation and do what they can to conserve the resources that ALL the BOINC projects need.

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    Message 9600 - Posted 5 Feb 2009 23:06:12 UTC

      Why do u write it here?

      write it on LHC forum..

      :-)

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      Message 9601 - Posted 6 Feb 2009 2:14:10 UTC - in response to Message 9600.

        Why do u write it here?

        write it on LHC forum..

        :-)


        I write it here because LHC@home censors any information that embarasses them.

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        Message 9606 - Posted 8 Feb 2009 19:05:19 UTC - in response to Message 9600.

          Why do u write it here?

          write it on LHC forum..

          :-)


          He got his account banned on LHC ...

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          Message 9608 - Posted 8 Feb 2009 20:40:20 UTC - in response to Message 9606.

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            Why do u write it here?

            write it on LHC forum..

            :-)


            He got his account banned on LHC ...


            They suspended my posting privileges for 4 weeks because I speak truths that embarass them.

            Buck likes to exaggerate the facts and claim I am banned. He has to exaggerate because the bare facts always prove he is wrong.

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            Message 9610 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 0:58:20 UTC - in response to Message 9608.

              They suspended my posting privileges for 4 weeks because I speak truths that embarass them.

              Buck likes to exaggerate the facts and claim I am banned. He has to exaggerate because the bare facts always prove he is wrong.


              Look up user id 70524 ... or search for Dagorath ... the account says "(banished: ID 70524)"

              But, since Dagorath makes no errors ...

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              Message 9611 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 1:29:15 UTC - in response to Message 9610.

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                They suspended my posting privileges for 4 weeks because I speak truths that embarass them.

                Buck likes to exaggerate the facts and claim I am banned. He has to exaggerate because the bare facts always prove he is wrong.


                Look up user id 70524 ... or search for Dagorath ... the account says "(banished: ID 70524)"

                But, since Dagorath makes no errors ...


                That's what it says when they suspend posting privileges. I'll post there again when my time is up. It's not that I'm never wrong Buckey, it's that you never do your homework and you think the rules are for everybody else. Your very first post in this thread is obviously intentional aggravation.

                Hey, I have an idea... let's go look at your thread here where you went on a 7 day rant demanding that the ABC admins drop everything and explain the ABC conjecture to you.

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                Message 9615 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 12:13:30 UTC - in response to Message 9606.

                  Why do u write it here?

                  write it on LHC forum..

                  :-)


                  He got his account banned on LHC ...


                  He's right and you're wrong Paul and that's fact! Take a look and work it out yourself.
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                  Message 9644 - Posted 19 Feb 2009 9:15:41 UTC

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                    Geez, Dago got banned for not knowing when to stop, for harassing people both on the boards and via PMs. He abused people who agreed with him in principle, but didn't agree with the manner at which he was going about his crusade. That is why he got banned.

                    Oh, and for opening new accounts and posting under them while his main account was banned.

                    The stench with Dago on LHC sure didn't smell like roses.

                    Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.

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                    Message 9648 - Posted 19 Feb 2009 13:23:07 UTC - in response to Message 9644.

                      Gas Giant,

                      Your post is off topic. Nobody is interested in your juvenile "he's a sockpuppet" conspiracy theory. They are interested in facts about the waste at LHC@home and if they are not then they just move on to a different thread. Suggest you do the same or we'll have to consider you a troll and ask the moderators to deal with you.

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                      Message 9649 - Posted 19 Feb 2009 19:31:09 UTC

                        LOL...he just got banned on LHC AGAIN!

                        Dago, if you feel my posts are so off topic then you are most welcome to use the X at the bottom of my posts to report me to the moderators.

                        You do realise that I agreed with your statements about LHC needing to change their work unit replication policy. I just have an issue with the way you go about getting your ideas across, which then led into you abusing me via your posts and PMs. Shall I post the PMs you sent me?

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                        Message 9654 - Posted 20 Feb 2009 21:03:56 UTC

                          No problem with 0 RAC. My first wu error'd out since restarting and the second is in progress....

                          Which bannished ID were you again, banished: ID 142955 or banished: ID 70524? I've got PMs from both in my inbox....but I don't have a PM from your latest incarnation that was banned.

                          Nice to see you still don't get the fact that I agreed with what you were trying to do. If your attitude changed, more people would support you and maybe you would get somewhere with your crusade. A one person crusade tends to fail miserably.

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                          Message 9656 - Posted 21 Feb 2009 1:03:53 UTC

                            Good to see you're true to form.

                            You have been X'd.

                            Remember what happened the last time you were X'd?

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                            Message 9658 - Posted 21 Feb 2009 3:59:43 UTC

                              LOL...looks like another ban is on the horizon.
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                              Message 9663 - Posted 21 Feb 2009 17:36:35 UTC - in response to Message 9661.

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                                Good to know you know your actions will end up getting you banned. It goes to show you know right from wrong and you also feel what you have been posting is wrong. A good step forward.

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                                Message 9667 - Posted 21 Feb 2009 22:32:59 UTC

                                  What links would they be?
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                                  Message 9668 - Posted 21 Feb 2009 23:23:02 UTC - in response to Message 9667.

                                    Ya right, like I'm going to put them up here so you can report me to the police. I'm not as stupid as you. Anyway I deleted them ya freak.

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                                    Message 9676 - Posted 23 Feb 2009 10:20:59 UTC

                                      I see you've been banned again Dago!

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                                      Message 9733 - Posted 16 Mar 2009 10:45:55 UTC

                                        Ok this thread is nothing but a flame war now. Please don't flame in the future. As the thread is useful to no-one im locking it.
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